10 comments on “The Gross and Creepy Story of Lot

  1. Actually it doesn’t imply homosexuality. These are angels, not humans. Furthermore, the story is repeated in Judges 19-29, Judges 20:5 “And the men of Gibeah rose against me, and beset the house round about upon me by night, and thought to have slain me: and my concubine have they forced, that she is dead.” It is not necessarily true that the verb “to know” in the Bible implied sex. In this case and in Sodom’s it might have meant sacrifice to the god Belial. But there are many other terms which did imply sex which got a ridiculous translation. All told, one cannot say the Bible is antigay. And yes, I have read all of it.

  2. It’s amazing how absurd these Bible stories are once you step outside and look at them from a clear perspective. You did an excellent job of explaining this one, and pointing out its many contradictions. I especially liked your summary paragraph (right after the quote from Genesis 19:26). It’s interesting also that the women in the story are referred to as “Lot’s wife,” “the older daughter,” and “the younger daughter,” while the males — even the newborn sons — have actual names.

  3. I completely agree with Jeff Hooper re the Hebrew verb “to know”. Since I read the Bible in Hebrew I know that they didn’t mean to have sex, but probably to do something else that was pretty aweful… The Hebrew verb “know” needs to be read in its context. It does not always mean to have sex.

    So basically the story sounds gruesome if being read from today’s perspective, but at that time it was a revelation. I read it as a historical and social commentary, being not religious. Here are some of the points that were a novelty at that time: Valuing human life to the extent that one argues with god about saving people who are worthy. Also, the commitment to protect your guests, once they entered your home, which is valued in the Middle East even today. The concept that there’s punishment for evil was a new concept, so all in all, a bad story with some new ideas re justice, loyalty and valuing the righteous.

    No doubt that when read from our perspective we can trash the book, but if you want to learn about the social development of the era, it’s an excellent example. Mostly, one can appreciate the book if one is not religious.

    • I definitely agree, Rachel. As an atheist, I can definitely appreciate the bible from a historical/academic perspective. For good or for ill, it has had a profound impact on Western culture. Thanks for visiting and for the insights.

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    • Isn’t it weird and creepy how people use this story to condemn gays, and yet overlook the part about this “righteous man” offering his daughters to a mob of rapists? And then later getting them both pregnant? But it’s GAYS that are the problem. Yeah. Sure. Okay. Whatever. :)

  5. The claim is that he was so drunk “He did not know when she lay down or when she arose” and yet somehow he was still able to perform.

    This is either a tale of two daughters drugging and raping their father (twice) or it is a hell of a cover story on the part of dear ole dad for why his two daughters were with child. “They must have gotten me drunk, I swear.”

    One of the true gems of the Bible.

    • It’s right up there with the “Here is one of my most faithful followers who I am now going to fuck over in the most horrific ways possible just because Satan was playing a mind game with me” Job story.

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